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deskitty
deskitty
Des
Thu, Sep. 6th, 2007 08:04 am
Don't use AIM mobile. It annoys me. =P

OK, AIM mobile seriously annoys me, and enough people are starting to use it that it's worth a journal entry.

Why? Because it shows people as being online, when they're not. (And no, this isn't unique to my client, AFAIK all AIM clients work this way.) So now whether or not someone shows up in my blist is no longer a reliable indicator of whether or not they're online.

Worse yet, in multiprotocol clients (e.g. Trillian, Kopete, Pidgin, etc.) mobile clients are treated as online and active. So if the person is, for example, online but away through Yahoo, the client will still direct messages at AIM-mobile because it's not away.

In short, "online" no longer means "online". There is something fundamentally broken about that.

Fair warning: I'm going to stop checking for the little mobile icon. If I see you on my blist, and you're online (i.e. not away), I'll assume you're OK with being IMed. If you're not OK with this, then don't put your phone on AIM. Text messages work just fine, people. :P

[Edit: By "IMed", I mean, I expect you're OK with having a normal conversation, as if you were on AIM via a standard AIM client.]

Edit #2: To summarize/make things clear:
  • I'm not going to treat mobile AIM any differently than normal AIM, period.

  • If my client says you're online (mobile or not), I'll assume you're online and amenable to conversation.

  • If you're online, I leave a message, and you consistently don't respond in a reasonable time, I'll think it rude (or at least inconsiderate).

  • Barring a very compelling argument, I'm not open to reconsidering this. I believe the above points constitute good netiquette, so bitching at me about it will garner no sympathy. ;)


-- Des

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deskitty
deskitty
Des
Thu, Sep. 6th, 2007 07:24 pm (UTC)

Maybe Trillian has gotten smarter since I last looked. I know both Kopete and Pidgin are stupid about mobile clients.


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kion
kion
Kevin Kress
Thu, Sep. 6th, 2007 08:17 pm (UTC)

I have pidgin and I see a mobile icon next to people's names.


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deskitty
deskitty
Des
Thu, Sep. 6th, 2007 08:51 pm (UTC)

That's not the point though. The point is they show up as online (i.e. not away, not idle).

Last I checked, when asked to choose between a mobile SN and an away SN, Pidgin will choose the mobile.

IMO both of these behaviors are wrong, but they point to an underlying design problem -- cell phones don't do the concept of "online" and "offline". When your phone's on, you're online, regardless of whether you're busy, not paying attention, or whatever.


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northing
northing
North
Thu, Sep. 6th, 2007 06:59 pm (UTC)

I have used AIMmobile for several years now and generally like it. Your new IM policy is the correct one, and the one I've always assumed people use: if I'm up on mobile it means I'm free to be messaged, have at it!

That said, I might not be on AIMmobile too much longer. It seems there's now good software for my phone to be on real AIM all the time, so I might just swtich over to that.


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deskitty
deskitty
Des
Thu, Sep. 6th, 2007 07:12 pm (UTC)

Well, I've been bitched at for messaging mobile people in the past and treating it as normal AIM. So I used to just substitute "mobile" with "offline", but then I decided those people don't have a leg to stand on, 'cause they can just turn it off if they don't like it. ;)

It's just annoying from my perspective because mobile users often won't engage in conversation normally, or will choose not to respond. At that point, why advertise yourself as online at all?

For my part, you'll likely never see me on AIMmobile. I want it to be harder (i.e. require more conscious thought) for people to get hold of me when I don't choose to be online. That way they don't bug me with less-important things and I can engage more fully with whatever I'm doing IRL.


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traysandor_foxy
traysandor_foxy
Miles E. Traysandor
Fri, Sep. 7th, 2007 04:52 am (UTC)

I must be behind in the technology curve, as I don't have any messenger-compatible devices, it's probably better that way anyway, seeing as I spend a considerable amount of offline time on the road [times I'm stuck at the airport nonwithstanding].

So if you see me online, it means I'm physically online and able to chat. [If I happen to be busy with something, jammed with IM's, ot getting ready for work soon, I'd let you know]


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queueball
queueball
Q
Fri, Sep. 7th, 2007 06:18 am (UTC)

As someone who still rejects the notion that a cellular telecommunications device may properly be called a "phone," much less should be used for calling people, sending text messages, reading web pages, or nuking the Russkies, I find this policy reasonable. =p


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